After two and a half years, I returned to Little Jo Berry's amazing podcast, Business Baby! It's always so special to talk with Jo because I so rarely get to have a one-on-one with another nonbinary business owner.

In this episode, we caught up about how my business has changed over the past few years. We talked about my upcoming nonbinary speaking voice course, what nonbinary voice training can look like, queer business owners showing up for queer business owners, less-than-perfect allyship, getting misgendered in the business space, and so much more! Listen below or wherever you get your podcasts.